If I buy An Ambrace Of Truth - Will I Get Banned ? - Guild Wars Forums

Sirus Dibley · Aug 14, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Well ? An official answer would be nice.

Tatum · Aug 14, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47

Hehe, you don't get banned.

Armbrace of Truth is used to get Tormented items.

vixro · Aug 14, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30

With money or game gold?

If you pay real money for an item, technically they can ban you. But in all honesty there is pretty much no way they can possibly tell if you paid real money for it or not (unless they were the ones selling it, like a cop faking to be a prostitute).

Isileth · Aug 14, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30

As Gaile has stated in another thread (sorry I dont have it to hand to quote) those who actively abused the exploit, those who knowingly recieved or purchased items they knew had been created through the exploit (This also includes people who sold items for stacks of Ambraces as Gaile said its fairly obvious they wouldnt have been obtained through legit gaming). However people who have purchased the odd one or 2 items without knowing of the exploit (I assume this means you need to be a few steps down the chain from someone who originally exploited it, so you could not have known) are very unlikely to be banned.

So basically as long as your not buying from someone spamming they have stacks to sell or offering stupids ammounts in trade you should be ok. If you want to risk it or not is up to you however, it seems unlikely you would have a desperate need for one expect to make a profit from this situation so I would advise not purchasing one. Of course the choise is yours.

If you can obtain one yourself without buying that would obviousely be the better route to take.

Edit to include Gailes post

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

What "mass banning" are you describing? The numbers being mentioned in this thread are in the single digits. There has been no mass ban. Period.

Here is what we've done:

We've found the people who duplicated items. Their numbers were really quite small. We banned them.
We found the people to whom the duplicated items were given in large quantities. Their numbers were somewhat larger, but again, relatively few. We banned them.
We are examining records to see how far this extends. We may be banning more in the coming days, but we will most likely choose to not ban more than we will choose to ban. The decision is ours and will be based on a lot of factors, principal being whether it's reasonable to assume that the player knew he/she was getting ill-gotten goods.

We are quite sure that those players getting stacks and stacks of the most valuable item in the game realized that this largesse was not the result of the kind and generous spirit of a guild mate or friend. We're quite sure that those getting offers of 5 gazillion armbraces for item sales knew that something was wrong, and yet they made the sale anyway. It's obvious that certain players knew about the exploit, or suspected there was one. It's pretty easy to establish who such players were.

Did you think we'd never notice? Of course we noticed! Our recordkeeping is exceptionally detailed. You can't move a piece of gold from one bag to another without us knowing it. And as a result, those at the center of abusing this exploit were banned. That is as it should be.

The issue of someone selling a single ambrace to another innocent person, later on, is more complicated. The item was duped, but the buyer may not have been -- probably was not -- aware that he/she was buying a duped item. So, it's a matter of degree, intention, and knowledge. Do we ban the seller, with multiple stacks of 250 armbraces in inventory (or who handed off stacks to friends and guildies)? Yes! Do we ban the player who makes the one-off purchase -- an armbrace here, a couple of duped ectos there? It's not likely that we will.

Duplicating items is disallowed by the User Agreement under which each player is permitted to play Guild Wars. Getting stacks and stacks of free items -- or receiving ridiculous numbers of items for a sale -- must have pinged peoples' radars that "Hey, this can't be legit!" Just as receiving stolen property is a crime in the real world, this sort of act is disallowed in our game, and results in a ban.

Those who made an innocent purchase have very little to worry about. The accounts of those who were banned were examined with care and consideration, using extensive research to assure that the appropriate action was taken. It is highly unlikely that these players can successfully appeal their banning.

And if you're aware of someone who was involved, I invite you to report that player, for the good of the game.

Njaiguni Blaze · Aug 14, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

As long as you buy it with legit ingame gold, you will not get banned.

bilateralrope · Aug 14, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

My advise, wait a few weeks before buying one, just to give things a chance to settle down.

Etta · Aug 14, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Agree, right now the Ambrace market is more or less a red zone. Seeing that you have no mean of knowing weather or not the items are duplicated. Also ANet is tracking those items and will ban first and ask question later if they see one. If you really want to buy it, do so at you own risk.

Prof Of Black · Aug 14, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Just dont buy one, wait.

The risk of getting banned is just too high, and surely not worth it.

~Prof.

Griff Mon · Aug 14, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41

I would steer clear of buying any high value items from anyone except the merchant. I popped into ToA late last night and people were selling Ambraces of Truth for 5K. That is a ridiculously low price and these items were duped. Having duped items in your inventory puts you at risk for being banned.

Suuk · Aug 14, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof Of Black

Just dont buy one, wait.

The risk of getting banned is just too high, and surely not worth it.

~Prof.

FYI, this person got banned because he traded/bought 8 armbraces without knowing about the exploit/dup thing.

You know now and you are trying to figure out whether it is safe to take advantage of the panic in the armbrace market.

Shame on you!

Miss Puddles · Aug 14, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

i think he's just being cautious about buying a legit one. people do hate waiting to buy things they want.
i think you plaed the shame card way too early, dude.

Suuk · Aug 15, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

i think he's just being cautious about buying a legit one. people do hate waiting to buy things they want.
i think you plaed the shame card way too early, dude.

Do you think I did? Well, I think I did not. And here is why: the whole guru was swarmed with posts about the armbrace issue. Everyone with at least one working brain cell could figure out that if you are buying armbraces now, you take advantage of the situation. Also, you run the risk of getting a ban. If someone asks for official wording about the possibilities of getting a ban when buying an armbrace while the whole thing is at its peak, I can not conclude any other thing than that said person is trying to take advantage. Otherwise he would just wait till the whole thing is over and dealt with.

And, I am not a dude. You can call me by my forum name or just call me sir

Tutis Evito · Aug 15, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth

Lorinda · Aug 15, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutis Evito

Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth

Your not stupid.
Its a very high end item that gives you the option to choose from several high end weapons in Nightfall.
They did something with the internetreconnect option to reproduce these items. *named duped/duplicating*
That is also why the reconnect option is turned off.

My tip: Dont buy an Armbrace now. Just get the gems and get one yourself in Normal Mode from a Spirit of Truth in one of the 4 area's . She cant duplicate one.
Dont burn your fingers on something that is to good to be true.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armbrace

Officail Wiki had it.

Disclaimer: Im not english no english bassing plz ktybye

Suuk · Aug 15, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorinda

Disclaimer: Im not english no english bassing plz ktybye

You are Dutch so you dont have an excuse for poor English

Geintje

What she said: dont be tempted to buy because of the low prices.

Njaiguni Blaze · Aug 15, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tutis Evito

Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth

Probably couldn't find it because it's an aRmbrace of truth. Common mistake, like the Sliver/Silver Armor.

Tutis Evito · Aug 15, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Ah....and i dont own NF anyway

Scorpion Boy · Aug 15, 2007, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Like almost everyone here said before, you won't get banned unless you buy one with "black" gold or if you buy like 1750of them, buying one won't get you banned.

~Scorp

Hyper.nl · Aug 15, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

I would wait a week or two, to give ANet the time to remove any left-over dupes. Or just buy gemstones and get the armbrace yourself.

joze · Aug 15, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

I would do as many here have suggested you to - simply wait.
ANet will probably make attempts to remove these duped Armbraces from the market, and maybe one day yours will be gone.
You can risk of getting banned too, ANet is not very careful with what they've done recently. I know several persons who got banned for buying Armbraces for 60E and selling for 70E, even though they did not know they were duped ones.
Stay away from Armbraces for a while before you buy one - that's what I'm going to do.

Aug 14, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41	#1
Sirus Dibley Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England Profession: Me/N	If I buy An Ambrace Of Truth - Will I Get Banned ? Well ? An official answer would be nice.

Aug 14, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47	#2
Tatum Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] Profession: N/	Hehe, you don't get banned. Armbrace of Truth is used to get Tormented items. Last edited by Tatum; Aug 14, 2007 at 04:52 AM // 04:52..

Aug 14, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30	#3
vixro Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Stranded Among New Players [SANP] Profession: Mo/	With money or game gold? If you pay real money for an item, technically they can ban you. But in all honesty there is pretty much no way they can possibly tell if you paid real money for it or not (unless they were the ones selling it, like a cop faking to be a prostitute).

Aug 14, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26	#5
Njaiguni Blaze Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] Profession: Me/	As long as you buy it with legit ingame gold, you will not get banned.

Aug 14, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26	#6
bilateralrope Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Guild: Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)	My advise, wait a few weeks before buying one, just to give things a chance to settle down.

Aug 14, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54	#7
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	Agree, right now the Ambrace market is more or less a red zone. Seeing that you have no mean of knowing weather or not the items are duplicated. Also ANet is tracking those items and will ban first and ask question later if they see one. If you really want to buy it, do so at you own risk.

Aug 14, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20	#8
Prof Of Black Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: @ Sensation Black Guild: Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance	Just dont buy one, wait. The risk of getting banned is just too high, and surely not worth it. ~Prof.

Aug 14, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41	#9
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	I would steer clear of buying any high value items from anyone except the merchant. I popped into ToA late last night and people were selling Ambraces of Truth for 5K. That is a ridiculously low price and these items were duped. Having duped items in your inventory puts you at risk for being banned.

Aug 14, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55	#11
Miss Puddles Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost] Profession: Me/	i think he's just being cautious about buying a legit one. people do hate waiting to buy things they want. i think you plaed the shame card way too early, dude.

Aug 15, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03	#13
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth

Aug 15, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01	#17
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	Ah....and i dont own NF anyway

Aug 15, 2007, 12:36 PM // 12:36	#18
Scorpion Boy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005	Like almost everyone here said before, you won't get banned unless you buy one with "black" gold or if you buy like 1750of them, buying one won't get you banned. ~Scorp

Aug 15, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47	#19
Hyper.nl Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood Profession: E/	I would wait a week or two, to give ANet the time to remove any left-over dupes. Or just buy gemstones and get the armbrace yourself.

Aug 15, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32	#20
joze Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006	I would do as many here have suggested you to - simply wait. ANet will probably make attempts to remove these duped Armbraces from the market, and maybe one day yours will be gone. You can risk of getting banned too, ANet is not very careful with what they've done recently. I know several persons who got banned for buying Armbraces for 60E and selling for 70E, even though they did not know they were duped ones. Stay away from Armbraces for a while before you buy one - that's what I'm going to do.